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mdmead
10-22-2010, 07:40 AM
Every year I go to Puyallup for the Washington State Snowmobile Association's Snowmobile Expo & Swap Meet. I put in 8 hours over two days working in our booth, and then spend the rest of the time taking pictures, many of which end up in our association's paper (for which I'm the editor). It's a busy time. But the show is pretty impressive and a lot of fun. This year we had over 8,000 people attend. This is down from our high of 10,000, but given the economy and poor snow last year, it was to be expected. Here are a bunch of pics I took and a narrative.

The Blue Lot is a happening place with an outdoor swap. It costs $30 to sell items here. Starting around 6am, sellers start showing up The buyers come in right behind. Two rows of vehicles coming in here. (While we don't charge a parking fee for attendees, we ask for a donation to our Legal Action Fund. Most are willing.)

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Here they are backed around the corner onto Meridian.

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Lots of people walking around checking out the deals.

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A couple of 4x4s were for sale. Here's a nice looking mudder.

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And a crawler.

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I hate THIS guy. WSSA puts a lot of time, money and effort into this show. This is how we raise funds to support the organization whose sole purpose is to protect snowmobiling in WA. This guy parks outside the swap meet area trying to sell his machines without paying the $30 fee. Every year we have some of these people.
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As 10am approaches, the crowd starts gathering near the Fairgrounds entrance.

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They come across the street in waves.

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A big crowd goes in right at 10am.

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Snowmobilers looking for bargains!

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Usually when you seem this many people standing around, you figure there must be a stripper or something. This was the BAM Film Productions booth and the were showing an extreme snowmobiling video.

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Some of the vendors have pretty involved displays. Klim spent hours setting theirs up.

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Lots of trailers on display.

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This is about the size I'd like to get.

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This is a new design. Pretty inovative.

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There are actually two parts to the Swap Meet. The Blue Lot outside the fairgrounds, and the Swap Meet on the inside. it costs a bit more than twice as much to be on the inside ($65), but you have a covered spot for two days and get wristbands for two people for both days. It's actually a better deal as it would cost $100 to do the same thing selling from the Blue Lot for two days and also entering the show. This is part of the indoor swap which is split between two buildings.

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Dealers come from all over the state and Oregon too. Here is Webb out of Ellensburg.

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Premeir from Yakima.

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This is the other swap building.

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Lots of interesting stuff in the swap meet. How about a pint-sized Tomahawk knockoff?

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Our WSSA safety trailer and volunteers.

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This guy is wearing drunk goggles... and doing a decent job of walking the line!

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State Parks teaches a snowmobile safety course during the Expo.

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A groomer is on display so people can see what maintains the trails for them.

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This year the outdoor vendors did well because the weather was nice. This guy sells a lot of cheap tools. (I bought a compression tester and mini-file set from him.)

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Lots of prizes awarded. Over $7500 worth of stuff was given away. This guy won a shop package.

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The guy in the middle won this storage lift. Some of you may recognize the guy on the right (Dan Johnson) as he is a Jeeper, dirt biker, (snowmobiler), and co-owner of Jet Chevrolet on the West side. He is also on the committee that puts on this event.

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The grand prize on Sunday was this new trailer.

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MotorFist auctioned off a couple of snowsuits to raise money for our Legal Action Fund. The guys on the outside each bid $450 and won their suits.

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A few UTVs were on display. This was the first time I got up close to the new Can Am. Nice!

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Some are pushing to make it legal for tracked ATVs/UTVs to use the snowmobile trails. Not sure what the outcome of this is going to be. Cool rides though!

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Hamilton Farm Equipment is the Polaris dealer in Okanogan. They were selling this new kid's 170 RZR for $2500. That is a steal! I paid that for my daughter's Can Am 90. I talked to the rep and he said the RZR retailed for about $4200 but he didn't want to haul it back.

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Vintage sleds are popular and we always have a good display.

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Lots of parts and accessories. Some new and different. This is a new idea for loading on ice. It hooks to the back of the trailer and you drive across it, giving traction to the track. (Think tire chains.)

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New suspensions.

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Always a bunch of custom sleds on display.

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Turbo power baby!

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The four major manufacturers had new machines on display. This Yamaha Bravo is low tech, and basically the same as it was when it is new back in '85, but it is their best selling sled!

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This new Ski Doo has a 600cc 4-stroke which is reported to get 29 mpg. (I get about 10 with my old Ski Doo.)

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Asphalt drag sleds are cool!

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Here is a new dirtbike conversion. There are a handful of companies making kits now.

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Campers are popular with sledders and Arctic Fox always has a display.

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We had BAM Film Productions taping throughout the show. They have a new show called Powersports Adventures that is going to air on the Outdoor Channel this winter and they are going to feature our show.

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This couple being filmed are co-chairs of our show. There would be no show without them.

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After you buy a bunch of expensive parts, you bring your 'significant other' to the Cookie Lee booth to make her happy!

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We provide booth space for other advocacy groups. Kay Lloyd on the left lives in Cle Elum and was just voted in as a BRC Board member. Joni Mogstad, from Oregon, was previously the BRC Treasurer, and will soon assume the President's position. (That's her husband Duane on the right.)

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This year I sat in on the meeting with the manufacturer reps. This is a chance for them to comment on the show and give us feedback. They are a pretty satisfied bunch.

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Klim gave a $1000 club grant this year. It went to the Yakima Ski Benders to help keep the Ahtanum Sno-Park open this winter. (It cost about $22K last year.)

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The Pink Ribbon Riders raise money for breast cancer patients by holding charity rides. They haven't had one in WA yet, but they are working on it.

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Every kid wants a new snowmobile!

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So there is an overview of last weekends show!

Ceg
10-22-2010, 08:17 AM
Very nice report! Thank you for sharing with us. :thumbright:

Fish
10-22-2010, 09:39 PM
There are some very cool sleds there. Thanks for sharing the pics!

Jerry
10-22-2010, 11:47 PM
Great photos! Just looking at the pics of all those sleds, quads, haul vehicles and misc. machines is exciting, let along riding them. The antique sleds were great. Thanks for keeping us up to date and for responsibly representing both hobbies.

colemancooler
10-23-2010, 09:31 AM
great write up :thumbright: .


I think the only thing that makes the side by sides illegal when they have tracks is that they do not have skid steer, even though the groomer does not, that is a requirement. Please correct me if I am wrong :scratch:

mdmead
10-23-2010, 09:51 AM
great write up :thumbright: .


I think the only thing that makes the side by sides illegal when they have tracks is that they do not have skid steer, even though the groomer does not, that is a requirement. Please correct me if I am wrong :scratch:

On Saturday of the Expo, Tim Foss from the Forest Service had set up a group discussion on tracked ATVs on the snowmobile trails. Even though it was advertised in our Snoflyer paper and on our website, I was the only one who showed up! Anyway, Tim and I talked for about 20 minutes. Tim said that by Forest Service rules, his (Okanogan/Wenachee) Forest is the only one that outlaws tracked ATVs on the snowmobile trails. The other Forests in the State allows them. But this is contrary to State Parks rules, and State Parks manages the snowmobile program.

According to State Parks, tracked ATVs are illegal for two reasons. First and foremost is due to the state's legal definition of a a snowmobile. Basically the State defines them as a machine powered by a track and steered by skis. No skis = not a snowmobile. The second reason is because it is illegal to dual-register. The vehicles can't have an OHV tag and a snowmobile tag.

WSSA hasn't yet really weighed in on this issue. Several of us have thought it is probably good to welcome the tracked machines. My personal thought has always been that it means more money into our program and more voices when dealing with land-use issues.

While Tim and I were talking, Elaine Burr, a Yakima (Toppenish technically) local, and person intimate with our local grooming program, wandered through and we asked her. She said she now opposes them. She said there was some significant trail damaged caused by tracked vehicles last season and required a lot of extra work by the groomer to fix the trails. But she wasn't 100% sure the problem was tracked UTVs or ATVs or something bigger like a truck or SUV running Mattracks.

I've always felt that a tracked ATV would have a lbs per square inch on the ground close to that of a snowmobile. If that is the case, then I don't see where they would necessarily do any more trail damage if ridden responsibly. But I need to find out for sure I guess.

colemancooler
10-23-2010, 10:13 AM
I was not aware that they were tagged differently, but that makes sense since the money for the Tabs would go different places

RonThePartsGuy
10-24-2010, 01:53 AM
Great pics and write up!

I haven't been on a sled in years and I miss it... well the riding part, not the cold part. :laughing6:

I do have a Rhino so maybe I should be looking for tracks and an enclosed cab with heater to put on it?

mdmead
10-24-2010, 09:02 AM
I do have a Rhino so maybe I should be looking for tracks and an enclosed cab with heater to put on it?

I'd like to have a set of tracks for my ATV, but at $3500 and up for a set, the price of admission is pretty steep! (A heated cab would be pretty sweet though...)

RonThePartsGuy
10-25-2010, 08:48 PM
I do have a Rhino so maybe I should be looking for tracks and an enclosed cab with heater to put on it?

I'd like to have a set of tracks for my ATV, but at $3500 and up for a set, the price of admission is pretty steep! (A heated cab would be pretty sweet though...)
Yea... I'm thinking the heated cab portion of my dream is easier than the tracked part. :laughing6: :laughing9:

RonThePartsGuy
10-25-2010, 08:49 PM
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Sold a lift kit to Dan Johnson yesterday. He does it all from Jeeps to dirt bikes to sleds. :headbang:

RonThePartsGuy
10-25-2010, 08:58 PM
Did anyone see my buddy Josh's booth where he was selling his sled decks? He stopped by my shop today and dropped one off for me to sell. These things are SWEET!

I teased him about building me one to hold my Rhino. :laughing6:

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Setting it up on a semi-chassis in front of my shop:
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Jeepscum
11-01-2010, 09:32 PM
I do have a Rhino so maybe I should be looking for tracks and an enclosed cab with heater to put on it?

I'd like to have a set of tracks for my ATV, but at $3500 and up for a set, the price of admission is pretty steep! (A heated cab would be pretty sweet though...)

Ive riden a Outlander 800 on 4 tracks at my father inlaws shop. They use it for snowmobile extraction in Hells Canyon for their rental sleds. They also have a John Deere 6 wheel gator on full tracks. I may need to hit this show next year if I havnt found the box trailer I want by then. :headbang:

RonThePartsGuy
11-01-2010, 09:47 PM
I do have a Rhino so maybe I should be looking for tracks and an enclosed cab with heater to put on it?

I'd like to have a set of tracks for my ATV, but at $3500 and up for a set, the price of admission is pretty steep! (A heated cab would be pretty sweet though...)

Ive riden a Outlander 800 on 4 tracks at my father inlaws shop. They use it for snowmobile extraction in Hells Canyon for their rental sleds. They also have a John Deere 6 wheel gator on full tracks. I may need to hit this show next year if I havnt found the box trailer I want by then. :headbang:
I am thinking about going to the snow show next year as well. Maybe we can "commute" together. :laughing6: